tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post1524572187047361287..comments2024-02-13T10:20:04.888+00:00Comments on David Hepworth's blog: So who else are they going to give a whistle to?David Hepworthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05973053694541321308noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-7748990902821787962009-06-03T22:40:39.871+01:002009-06-03T22:40:39.871+01:00Obviously I'm straying way beyond my competenc...Obviously I'm straying way beyond my competence here but surely the tennis technology is OK when it comes to measuring where the service ball falls in one small area of the court (an area which is not occupied by another player at the time) but it couldn't begin to decipher the average goal line melee.David Hepworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03541581777824775884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-26846263163204985062009-06-03T19:33:30.273+01:002009-06-03T19:33:30.273+01:00"The Official Behind The Goal's a wanker!..."The Official Behind The Goal's a wanker!" doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it?londonleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08431179744928331353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-92051462285990020092009-06-03T19:23:35.271+01:002009-06-03T19:23:35.271+01:00But even with the Malouda 'incident' we ha...But even with the Malouda 'incident' we had to have a few looks, and as a Chelsea supporter, I still wouldn't want to put my shirt on the whole of that ball having crossed the whole of the line.<br />Even if we had ten Gaelic line judges last Saturday, could they have indicated with certainty that it was, without question, a goal? <br />I doubt it.<br />The only possible solution is the chip technology (as per tennis), but we would then have to accept that the professional game is not the same as played on village green pitches. However, it already <i>is</i> a different game.Terencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14394053210334889811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-56417271848531308732009-06-03T15:52:58.215+01:002009-06-03T15:52:58.215+01:00Re Kevin's comment about Gaelic games: UEFA ha...Re Kevin's comment about Gaelic games: UEFA have announced that they're going to try out a new system in next season's Europa Cup (ie what used to be the UEFA Cup), with an extra official stationed behind each goal.<br /><br />The idea is that they'll be perfectly placed to rule on incidents like the Malouda 'goal', and also on dubious challenges in and around the penalty area - which they should be well placed to see, as they won't be viewing them from behind, as the referee often is. They'll be in constant contact with the ref via microphones and headsets, so no need to stop play either.<br /><br />It sounds like it could be a useful idea. Or it might just give the crowd two extra officials to hurl abuse at...TimThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953081013855148796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-69766769542210100622009-06-03T14:51:00.067+01:002009-06-03T14:51:00.067+01:00I suppose the only way it could possibly work woul...I suppose the only way it could possibly work would be if the referee only stopped the game if he was genuinely unsure about a decision. The ref on saturday must have suspected that the ball had at least <i>possibly</i> crossed the line, so he could have stopped the game in such circumstances and checked it. It could work for penalty and offside claims, too. But the problem would still arise that refs would make mistakes, by not even thinking that an issue was questionable. And it would take away a certain amount of counter-attacking potential for the defending team.<br /><br />The other thing is that introducing technology takes the top level of the game further away from the average Joe playing it. The beauty of football lies in its simplicity, and the relative lack of equipment required. If microchipped balls and video technlogy are introduced then it becomes a vastly different game to the one that kids play every day. At the moment the only difference is that the professionals cheat more.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06170574944537866579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-17629907688758014652009-06-03T14:09:52.109+01:002009-06-03T14:09:52.109+01:00They do that in tennis don't they? Have some s...They do that in tennis don't they? Have some sort of cameras/sensors that go beep! if a ball hits the line.londonleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08431179744928331353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-49377105785527995032009-06-03T11:38:18.352+01:002009-06-03T11:38:18.352+01:00Technology should only be considered for phantom g...Technology should only be considered for phantom goal issues like this one. If the ball and the goallines are microchipped and a beep goes off in the ref's earpiece, that should be enough. Otherwise, leave well alone.Matthew Ruddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05842392964784000029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-46464536302269026132009-06-03T08:37:01.060+01:002009-06-03T08:37:01.060+01:00'Both games have one characteristic football d...'Both games have one characteristic football doesn't...'<br /><br />Er, yeah, they accept the decision of the officials immediately and without argument, and if they don't, severe sanction follows. Why doesn't football try that first?The Old Batsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14376172807195747856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-53944153735181586512009-06-02T23:25:17.984+01:002009-06-02T23:25:17.984+01:00It just won't work, regardless of problems with st...It just won't work, regardless of problems with stopping the play. <br /><br />How many times over the past few years has the video ref in the Six Nations got it wrong? They're watching the same replays as us and the commentators, it's clear to us whether it's a try or not, but they still screw up.<br /><br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-83940795524441731652009-06-02T22:53:45.680+01:002009-06-02T22:53:45.680+01:00Do you need to stop the game?
I'm sure a chip cou...Do you need to stop the game?<br /><br />I'm sure a chip could be put in the actual football that would only be triggered if ball entered the area behind the goal line. This would be transmitted to the referees earpiece with no extra stoppage needed. <br /><br />Okay,how about........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-29031593452187626262009-06-02T22:50:50.445+01:002009-06-02T22:50:50.445+01:00but do football fans want prescision in decisions ...but do football fans want prescision in decisions they always go both ways, do we want to lose the world cup over a video camera, obversely we won't say much if it went the other way would we.BLTPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06564846497205095201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-87990983425126549732009-06-02T20:36:00.690+01:002009-06-02T20:36:00.690+01:00Er...yes, well, there is that.
Okay, how about th...Er...yes, well, there is that.<br /><br />Okay, how about this. Managers have three "cards", to be used for either challenges or substitutions. So, if you've already used up two of your cards by putting two subs on in a cup tie that could go to extra time, you wouldn't risk using your last "card" as a challenge, in case a player got injured. You'd only challenge things that would give you a clear advantage, such as a penalty shout where you were 100% sure of being proved in the right by the video. <br /><br />No? Okay, then, well how about....Archie_Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04582569974503175543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-38356890324564884502009-06-02T20:24:32.866+01:002009-06-02T20:24:32.866+01:00Archie,
I don't see how the challenges rule would ...Archie,<br />I don't see how the challenges rule would work because football is one of those games where one side always has an interest in stopping the game while the other always has an interest in continuing. Let's say it's two minutes from the end of a relegation decider. Do you envisage *any* circumstances where one team wouldn't want to hold up the action if it meant that they could re-group?David Hepworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03541581777824775884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-85956567467566681362009-06-02T19:45:35.280+01:002009-06-02T19:45:35.280+01:00How about giving each manager three challenges per...How about giving each manager three challenges per match? If the ref rules against you after viewing the video, you've "spent" one of your challenges. If you keep winning them, you don't lose any and can keep challenging as often as you like, while the ref hates your guts for showing him up repeatedly.<br /><br />As for the mechanics, it could be as simple as a buzzer connection between the benches and the fourth official.<br /><br />No? Okay, then, well how about....Archie_Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04582569974503175543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38548109.post-1844442709568252962009-06-02T19:26:11.608+01:002009-06-02T19:26:11.608+01:00I'm absolutely with you on this one. The beauty of...I'm absolutely with you on this one. The beauty of football over other sports is its fluidity. We already have enough crying, diving and whinging slowing down the game when the ball gets knocked out in the spirit of fair play.<br /><br />One possible solution, I've always thought, would be to try the model used in Gaelic games here in Ireland, where two umpires stand behind the posts, one at each side of the goal. They're usually consulted on anything (including off the ball incidents) that goes on in and around the goals. It might stop all that jersey pulling at corners too if an umpire gave a penalty or two.Kevinhttp://puesoccurrences.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com